tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post3286016999273034856..comments2023-10-06T07:52:02.147-05:00Comments on Justice Roars: A Response From The GlambeauxTracie L. Washingtonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09969453234056149081noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-27629115886667934262014-02-28T22:40:16.653-06:002014-02-28T22:40:16.653-06:00The problem that I have with the open letter is th...The problem that I have with the open letter is that the writer keeps saying things like "Mardi Gras is now inclusive of everyone," "I wonder if some New Orleanians' perspectives are going to be dramatically shifted when they look at this group of women flambeaux and for the first time are forced to confront the question of why our community still expects to see only African American men in the role when virtually every other aspect of Mardi Gras has been integrated," etc.<br /><br />Mardi Gras - in more aspects than not - is still very segregated. And she seems completely unaware of that fact. How many people of color are riding in Proteus, Chaos, Krewe D'Etat, Babylon, or Rex? Last week the Krewe of Dorians presented a tableau which involved 20 white men trotting out in black face to represent Ray Nagin's 20 convictions. They were then "shot" by a group of Confederate soldiers that danced over the corpses while Dixie played. And the next day, the debutante's photos from that ball were published in the News Paper.<br /><br />This is not occurring in a vacuum. We have not achieved a "post racial" Mardi Gras. The hashtag #SolidarityIsForWhiteWomen was trending not that long ago. For a long time many women of color have - and understandably so - had a hard time finding a place at the feminist table.Bickerstaffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01198149866090362030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-18066745973181533852014-02-28T11:47:01.317-06:002014-02-28T11:47:01.317-06:00Wow, not into this idea of Glambeaux at ALL. Looks...Wow, not into this idea of Glambeaux at ALL. Looks like a bunch of white, middle to upper class ladies marketing themselves on facebook and other social media outlets. The cool kids doing it for "female empowerment". <br /><br />This isn't grassroots at all, it's exclusive and I might add, offensive to the tradition of flambeaux in New Orleans community. <br /><br />There's nothing wrong with female empowerment groups -- more power to you! But please, recognize that it's catering to a specific group located in NOLA (white hipsters) and that re-appropriating a tradition belonging to the black male community is problematic to many folks. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-41029812752971798822014-02-28T10:49:53.655-06:002014-02-28T10:49:53.655-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Head o' Hairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14967945771266513190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-84776911572559919452014-02-27T21:51:27.468-06:002014-02-27T21:51:27.468-06:00Despite all your good intentions, I still feel you...Despite all your good intentions, I still feel you are wrong. It's not your intentions that count. I'm a white girl, in case you wondered. I have to say when I heard about this group it made me cringe. I do hope you'll be able to find another way to honor the cause and the people you are trying to honor. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-12178711297793251242014-02-27T21:17:36.999-06:002014-02-27T21:17:36.999-06:00that's what i think!! it feels this way to me ...that's what i think!! it feels this way to me and I'm a white girl. ugh. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-12499646888965141292014-02-27T08:21:04.786-06:002014-02-27T08:21:04.786-06:00you're still missing the point. this isn't...you're still missing the point. this isn't problematic because they are women, it's problematic because they are white and because they choose the flambeau.<br /><br />though they may not perceive themselves as such, the real flambeau are telling a story, they are paying homage. they retell the story of slavery in new orleans every year. it's potent, sacred, and somber, and it's not the glambeaux's story to tell.<br /><br />similarly, the indian tradition may be rather patriarchal, but that doesn't mean we need a tribe of "white pocha-honeys" to throw some glitter, disco, and cluelessness at it in efforts to set it free.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-56775754242212989212014-02-27T08:17:47.201-06:002014-02-27T08:17:47.201-06:00I would say Dani you have increased a racial divid...I would say Dani you have increased a racial divide. you have alienated black women. then to patronize them by "throwing" change to a black organization. You know what you're doing....and dear Dani using the word "fear" is old slave mentality. You have dug yourself so deep. I can only wish anyone well....just know you have created a racial monster. It's the equivalent of coming out as a white mardi gras indian gang. I can just hear the N word rolling off your tongue. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-81172204645926923482014-02-27T01:15:48.849-06:002014-02-27T01:15:48.849-06:00I guess I didn't realize white people aren...I guess I didn't realize white people aren't allowed to take a stand against social injustices. I also didn't realize women (white women included) had no empowerment issues. That just clears everything up. I'll make sure to remember to scold any white female New Orleans Public school teachers I come across. Oh, and damn those women who help with Habitat for Humanity! How could they pick up TOOLS to help with any city rebuild?! This argument, like so many other's comments, are ridiculous.Let a women - whether she is white, black, or any other race - carry a torch. And may the proceeds help the city grow, regardless of where it came from.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-15773849334600451582014-02-26T22:45:59.438-06:002014-02-26T22:45:59.438-06:00Is this the post modern black face? Is this the post modern black face? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-47462103961017358342014-02-26T19:59:44.149-06:002014-02-26T19:59:44.149-06:00The Glambeaux are following the grand old Mardi Gr...The Glambeaux are following the grand old Mardi Gras tradition whereby a group of people who are excluded from joining the existing group, form their own. Zulu, Muses, 610 Stompers, and so many countless others were born of this same predicament. I'm sure those groups had their skeptics, but they are now established and cherished. But these groups all brought something new to the table besides just gender or race. The question is can the Glambeaux bring something new, or will they simply be seen as impostors, gentrifiers, and culture thieves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-70668805426652559492014-02-26T19:21:51.769-06:002014-02-26T19:21:51.769-06:00not everyone gets to do everything. the women of g...not everyone gets to do everything. the women of glambeaux seem smart and well intentioned, but you gotta consider the implications and what it symbolizes for mostly white, mostly transplants grafting themselves onto an ancient tradition because it seems fun. <br /><br />this is akin to the white "bywater bones boys" newcomers availing themselves to the nearly 200 year old skull and bones gang tradition.<br /><br />i understand wanting to participate but you gotta be careful. the black folks of this city have payed their dues in the way white transplants haven't. so if you're a bywater bohemian or a mid-city young professional and you're under the callio bridge tomorrow night don't fight with a black family over a muses shoe, yield, don't elbow your way to the street, yield. you symbolize invasion. you symbolize high rents, you symbolize less available jobs. <br /><br />the wine bar on st claude may be very nice, but it symbolizes something. there's a yoga studio on freret, there's a whole foods where a schegmanns used to be. it's a touchy situation. we've already lost new york and san francisco. be careful how you work yourself into new orleans. your enthusiastic embrace may choke it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-1664214844363991112014-02-26T18:06:25.111-06:002014-02-26T18:06:25.111-06:00Don't see any African American woman. And how ...Don't see any African American woman. And how many are these ladies are from NOLA? Probably less than more. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-53646507062735056972014-02-26T17:28:55.960-06:002014-02-26T17:28:55.960-06:00I have the same question as Royal Street Blues and...I have the same question as Royal Street Blues and would like to add that most white women in New Orleans are already empowered, so .... and how is the GLAM empowering, anyway? Why would you call yourselves that? hoodoonolanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-48159393034642322762014-02-26T13:43:56.278-06:002014-02-26T13:43:56.278-06:00So how many African American women are part of the...So how many African American women are part of the Glambeaux?Royal Street Blueshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02396109068284958798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-48578381725247839352014-02-26T13:31:51.097-06:002014-02-26T13:31:51.097-06:00This is no worse then many of the things being don...This is no worse then many of the things being done in this city now, the question is, is it better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-37396937279138023562014-02-26T13:16:42.032-06:002014-02-26T13:16:42.032-06:00Empowered women make for stronger communities and ...Empowered women make for stronger communities and a more equal and just world. I am very excited to see this tradition strengthened by the inclusion of ladies. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-17698060452055135432014-02-26T12:58:19.295-06:002014-02-26T12:58:19.295-06:00Here, lemme sum it up...
Gianna: Your shit is RUDE... Here, lemme sum it up...<br />Gianna: Your shit is RUDE, basically.<br />Dani: I know, but we already spent the money, gurl, so I'm gonna talk about some random "history" shit and we're still gonna parade, k?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-44927184172532389402014-02-26T11:34:57.230-06:002014-02-26T11:34:57.230-06:00Thank you very much for your well thought out resp...Thank you very much for your well thought out response. I am supportive of your efforts and am excited to see The Glambeaux tomorrow night. Cheers to adding to the merriment of Mardi Gras in our fine city!IvyExpresshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05493167626140959709noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-464319063590321799.post-84650949878500965022014-02-26T09:03:02.672-06:002014-02-26T09:03:02.672-06:00Well said Dani! Rock on! We'll be cheering tom...Well said Dani! Rock on! We'll be cheering tomorrowAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com